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0:10>>> DONALD TRUMP FACES MULTIPLE
0:23CRIMINAL PROBES AND WHILE HE
0:24HAS NEVER BEEN INDICTED, IT IS
0:25A FACT OF MODERN, LEGAL,
0:26GOVERNMENTAL AND POLITICAL LIFE
0:27THAT SO MANY TRUMP ASSOCIATES
0:28AND ALLIES HAVE BEEN INDICTED,
0:29CONVICTED, AND INCARCERATED.
0:33SOME FOR THINGS THEY CERTAINLY
0:34DID BUT OTHERS SEEMINGLY
0:35LARGELY FOR THINGS THAT ONLY
0:35WOULD’VE HAPPENED BECAUSE THEY
0:36WERE SO INVOLVED OR TIED TO
0:38DONALD TRUMP.
0:38ONE NAME THAT MANY PEOPLE WHO
0:40FOLLOW NEWS AND POLITICS
0:40REMEMBER IS A FORMER GIULIANI
0:45ASSOCIATE, LEV PARNAS WHO
0:46PLAYED A ROLE IN THE UKRAINE
0:47SAGA THAT LED TO DONALD
0:48TRUMP’S FIRST IMPEACHMENT.
0:54>> THEY WERE ASSOCIATES OF
0:55TRUMP’S PERSONAL LAWYER, RUDY
0:59GIULIANI, WHO KIND OF RAN
1:00ERRANDS FOR HIM.
1:01>> RUSSIAN-SPEAKING U.S.
1:03CITIZEN WHO WORKED CLOSELY WITH
1:05PRESIDENT TRUMP’S PERSONAL
1:08LAWYER, RUDY GIULIANI ON THE
1:12SCHEME IN UKRAINE FOR WHICH
1:13PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS NOW BEEN
1:14IMPEACHED.
1:14>> UNDER INDICTMENT FOR CAMPAIGN
1:17FINANCE VIOLATION.
1:19>> LEV PARNAS AND IGOR HAVE
1:23BOTH BEEN SENTENCED TO PRISON
1:27TIME FOR THEIR ROLE.
1:28>> THAT’S THE STORY.
1:29SIGNIFICANT ROLES IN WHAT WE
1:30LEARNED ABOUT BOTH DONALD
1:38TRUMP’S EFFORTS TO ABUSE HIS
1:39POWER TO GET RE-ELECTED AND
1:40ALSO THE VERY CONSEQUENTIAL
1:41IMPACT ON THE ENTIRE SITUATION
1:42IN UKRAINE, WHICH OF COURSE
1:43HAS REMAINED SO SERIOUS, THAT
1:44SO MANY PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD
1:46FOLLOW THAT PIECE OF THE
1:48PUZZLE.
1:48WE HAVE SOMETHING SPECIAL RIGHT
1:49NOW ON THE BEAT.
1:50LEV PARNAS IS SPEAKING OUT FOR
1:51THE FIRST TIME SINCE SERVING
1:53HIS FOUR MONTHS IN JAIL.
1:54HE IS NOW OUT ON HOME
1:56CONFINEMENT.
1:57HE JOINS ME NOW.
2:01THANKS FOR BEING HERE.
2:02>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
2:09>> LET’S START WITH, HOW ARE
2:10YOU DOING?
2:15HOW DID IT GO DURING YOUR
2:16INCARCERATION?
2:17DO YOU FEEL YOU LEARNED
2:17ANYTHING?
2:18WHERE ARE YOU NOW ON THE
2:19PERSONAL SIDE OF IT?
2:19>> TO BE HONEST, I’VE LEARNED A
2:21LOT OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS
2:22AND ESPECIALLY THE PAST SEVERAL
2:25MONTHS THAT I’VE BEEN
2:26INCARCERATED.
2:29I’VE HAD TIME TO THINK AND
2:30REFLECT AND TRY TO WORK ON
2:31MYSELF TO BE A BETTER PERSON,
2:32AND WITH THAT HELP, I’M DOING A
2:34LOT BETTER.
2:35I’VE BEEN BLESSED TO BE ALLOWED
2:39TO BE ON HOME CONFINEMENT FOR
2:40THE REMAINDER OF MY SENTENCE.
2:44I’M STILL PAYING MY DEBT TO
2:45SOCIETY.
2:45I’M HOME RIGHT NOW AND IT’S A
2:46GOOD RING.
2:47I’M WITH MY FAMILY AND MY KIDS.
2:53>> UNDERSTOOD.
2:53I APPRECIATE YOUR CANDOR ON
2:54THAT.
2:54WE TALKED TO PEOPLE IN VARIOUS
2:55SITUATIONS AND THERE IS STILL A
2:56HUMAN SIDE TO THIS EVEN IF
2:57THERE WAS A TRIAL IN THAT
2:59PROCESS.
3:02IT’S GOOD TO KNOW THAT YOU ARE
3:04DOING ALL RIGHT AS A HUMAN
3:05BEING.
3:05WHEN WE LOOK AT WHO YOU DEALT
3:06WITH, I MENTIONED IN MY SET UP
3:08TO YOU, I THINK IT’S AN OBVIOUS
3:09STRAIGHTFORWARD COMPARISON.
3:10THERE ARE PEOPLE LIKE MR.
3:13GIULIANI, TO SAY NOTHING OF MR.
3:14TRUMP WHO HAVE FACED LESS
3:18ACCOUNTABILITY THAN YOU.
3:19DID THAT WAY ON YOUR MIND WHILE
3:22YOU WERE INCARCERATED?
3:23WHAT YOU THINK OF THAT?
3:26>> THAT’S BEEN WEIGHING ON MY
3:27MIND FROM THE DAY I WAS
3:29ARRESTED, BECAUSE THE THINGS I
3:38WAS DOING, AT THE TIME I WAS
3:39DOING IT I THOUGHT I WAS DOING
3:40IT AS AN AMERICAN PATRIOT,
3:41SERVING MY COUNTRY.
3:42NEVER IN MY WILDEST DREAMS DID
3:43I THINK THE PRESIDENT OF THE
3:44UNITED STATES COULD BE SO
3:45CORRUPT AND DO THE THINGS HE
3:46DID OR SEND ME TO DO THE THINGS
3:47THAT I ENDED UP DOING.
3:49IT STILL WEIGHS ON MY MIND
3:50HEAVILY.
3:51THAT IS WHY I AM TRYING TO NOW
3:53MAKE AMENDS AND MAKE SURE I LET
3:55THE WHOLE TRUTH OUT AND MAKE
3:57SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS EXACTLY
3:59WHAT TRANSPIRED, ESPECIALLY
3:59WITH WHAT’S GOING ON IN
4:06UKRAINE.
4:06>> YOU TALK ABOUT THE TRUTH,
4:07WHAT, AT THE TIME, DID YOU
4:08THINK YOU WERE ESSENTIALLY
4:09DOING FOR MR. GIULIANI OR TRUMP
4:11AND HOW DO YOU VIEW IT NOW?
4:19>> AT THE TIME I WAS CONVINCED
4:20THERE WAS A DEEP STATE AND THE
4:22UKRAINIAN PEOPLE WERE INVOLVED
4:22IN THE OFFICIALS INVOLVED WERE
4:24CORRUPT AND THEY WERE TRYING TO
4:26UNDERMINE THE U.S. ELECTIONS BY
4:33– AT THE TIME.
4:33BUT AFTER REFLECTING AND
4:34UNDERSTANDING EXACTLY WHAT
4:35TRANSPIRED, I NOW REALIZE AND
4:37UNDERSTAND THAT IT WAS REALLY
4:38TRUMP USING GIULIANI.
4:39AND MAKING HIM PUT PEOPLE LIKE
4:42MYSELF IN HARM’S WAY TO BE ABLE
4:44TO — AT THAT TIME JOE BIDEN —
4:52>> LET ME DIG INTO THAT.
4:53THIS IS YOUR VIEW OF IT.
4:54PEOPLE WILL MAKE UP THEIR OWN
4:57MINDS ABOUT WHETHER THEY
4:58BELIEVE THAT YOU EVOLVED OR NOT.
5:00BUT WHAT YOU ARE TELLING ME,
5:02FOR MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT,
5:03DURING THAT TIME YOU BOUGHT
5:08INTO THE STORY LINE THAT YOU
5:09THOUGHT, IF THERE IS REALLY
5:10CORRUPTION OVER THERE, YOU ARE
5:11HELPING EXPLORE OR UPROOT IT
5:13PERHAPS AND YOU ARE TELLING ME
5:14THAT LATER YOU CAME TO SEE THAT
5:16WHICH I SHOULD KNOW AND VIEWERS
5:18KNOW WIDELY DISCREDITED COVER
5:25STORY THAT HURT THE BIDENS FOR
5:26POLITICAL REASONS, THAT YOU DO
5:27NOW SEE IT THAT WAY AND SAY WELL
5:31, ACTUALLY IT WAS ALL KIND OF
5:32TRUMP’S POLITICAL BS.
5:33>> ABSOLUTELY.
5:35YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND, I GREW
5:36UP IN BROOKLYN AND I LOOKED UP
5:40TO PEOPLE LIKE GIULIANI AND
5:41TRUMP AND WHEN HE BECAME
5:43PRESIDENT, I REALLY BELIEVED IT
5:48AND I DRINK THE KOOL-AID AND I
5:49REALLY BELIEVED THAT HE WAS
5:52TRYING TO DO GOOD FOR OUR
5:53COUNTRY AND I THOUGHT, HONESTLY
5:56THAT EVERYTHING I’M DOING IS
5:57POSITIVE FOR OUR COUNTRY.
5:58BUT EVENTUALLY, EVEN PRIOR TO
6:03MY ARREST, I COULD SEE THE WAY
6:05THAT GIULIANI WAS BEING SO
6:07AGGRESSIVE WITH TRUMP OFFICIALS
6:08AND PUTTING PRESSURE ON
6:11PRESIDENT ZELENSKY AT THE TIME.
6:14SOONER OR LATER I STARTED
6:15GETTING A FEELING, BUT I DIDN’T
6:16REALIZE IT UNTIL AFTER MY
6:17ARREST AND AFTER I HAD TIME TO
6:20RE-EVALUATE EVERYTHING THAT
6:21HAPPENED AND UNDERSTAND. TODAY
6:28I TRULY BELIEVE AND UNDERSTAND
6:29THAT THEY WERE USING ME TO BE
6:31ABLE TO BASICALLY WIN THE 2020
6:32ELECTION.
6:33MOST PEOPLE — EDUCATED, COMMON
6:38SENSE INDIVIDUALS WHO MIGHT NOT
6:40BE SAYING IT OUT LOUD, REALIZE
6:45IT’S A BUNCH OF BS AND IT’S NOT
6:46TRUE BUT THEY DON’T COME OUT
6:47AND SAY IT BECAUSE FOR THEIR
6:48OWN PERSONAL BENEFITS, THEY
6:49WANT TO CHANGE THE POLICY OR
6:54WHATEVER THE POLITICAL ASPECT
6:55IS.
6:57>> WITH YOUR PROXIMITY TO
7:01GIULIANI WHO WAS AT THE TIME
7:02DOING THINGS AT THE BEHEST OF
7:03TRUMP. HE SAID SO.
7:05TRUMP SENT HIM.
7:06WE KNOW ALL THAT PART.
7:07IS IT YOUR VIEW THAT GIULIANI
7:09AND TRUMP LIKELY COMMITTED
7:13CRIMES?
7:13OR CAN YOU NOT SAY BASED ON
7:14WHAT YOU SAW AND NO?
7:16>> I TRULY BELIEVE THEY
7:18COMMITTED CRIMES. THE WAY THEY
7:21TREATED AND THE WAY THEY SPOKE
7:22TO UKRAINIAN OFFICIAL PRESIDENT
7:25ZELENSKY AND PROSECUTORS OVER
7:26THERE, THEY BASICALLY
7:26BLACKMAILED THEM AND FORCE THEM
7:28INTO TRYING TO GET INFORMATION.
7:36THEY THREATEN THEM WITH
7:37DIFFERENT THINGS.
7:37THE FIRST THING WAS NOT HAVING
7:38VICE PRESIDENT HENCE ATTEND THE
7:40INAUGURATION. THAT WAS A HUGE
7:43THING FOR PRESIDENT ZELENSKY
7:45ONCE HE GOT INTO OFFICE.
7:49WITH HOW THE MILITARY IS AND
7:50STUFF LIKE THAT.
7:53THE CONSTANT THREAT GOING ON,
7:54THE STATE AND GET WHAT THEY
7:55WANTED AND WHAT THEY WANTED WAS
7:58FOR PRESIDENT ZELENSKY TO COME
7:59OUT AND SAY THERE WAS GOING TO
8:00BE AN INVESTIGATION INTO JOE
8:02BIDEN.
8:12>> THAT BRINGS ME TO THE FINAL
8:14POINT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT.
8:15THIS WAS A BIG DEAL FOR AMERICA
8:16FOR ALL OF THE OBVIOUS REASONS.
8:17THE PRESIDENT WAS IMPEACHED
8:18OVER IT AND IT MATTERED TO
8:19AMERICANS FOR THAT REASON
8:19FIRST.
8:20WE ALSO GOT A CRASH COURSE FOR
8:21MANY ON WHAT WAS GOING ON OVER
8:22THERE.
8:23IT PROVED TO BE HIGH-STAKES
8:23WHEN WE SAW PUTIN AND RUSSIA
8:25THEN INVADE UKRAINE.
8:29READING FROM SOMETHING YOU
8:30RECENTLY WROTE AS YOU EMERGED
8:31FROM, AS YOU SAID, PAYING YOUR
8:36DEBT, YOU SAID, I WAS USED BY
8:37TRUMP AND GIULIANI IN WAYS THAT
8:38HELPED PAVE THE WAY FOR PUTIN
8:39TO INVADE MY NATIVE LAND.
8:44IT IS STRIKING, WHEN WE SEE
8:49WHAT LATER OCCURRED, IT WOULD
8:52SEEM TO, AT A MINIMUM,
8:53REINFORCE HOW SERIOUS AND HOW
8:55LITERALLY LIFE AND DEATH, WHAT
8:59YOU CALLED THE BLACK MALE, THE
9:00PRESSURE THAT GIULIANI WAS
9:00PUTTING ON UKRAINE.
9:02WHAT DID YOU THINK WATCHING
9:07THIS INVASION?
9:07WHAT DID YOU THINK ABOUT TAKE
9:08THE U.S. POLITICS OUT OF IT FOR
9:10A MINUTE?
9:11WHAT ZELENSKYY HAS STOOD UP FOR
9:13THEN AND NOW. YOUR VIEWS ON ALL
9:17OF THAT.
9:17>> I WANT TO SAY THAT PRESIDENT
9:21ZELENSKY, WHEN I FIRST WAS OVER
9:23THERE, I DIDN’T KNOW WHO HE WAS
9:25WORRIED I WAS UNDERSTANDING HE
9:26WAS A COMET.
9:29DIDN’T HAVE TOO MUCH RESPECT.
9:33WHAT HE HAS DONE IS BEYOND
9:34MIRACULOUS.
9:34HE IS A TRUE HERO.
9:35HE HAS DONE MORE THAN OUR EX-
9:38PRESIDENT TRUMP EVER DID.
9:39HE SHOWED STRENGTH, COURAGE AND
9:42MORE IN THE FACE OF THE MOST
9:43EVIL HUMANS OUT THERE.
9:46VLADIMIR PUTIN.
9:46AND IT WAS INCREDIBLE TO SEE
9:51BECAUSE THE PRESSURE THAT WAS
9:52PUT ON HIM WAS INCREDIBLE BY
9:53THE UNITED STATES.
9:59TO SEE HIM NOT FOLD.
10:00IF HE DID FOLD THERE WOULD
10:01PROBABLY BE NO UKRAINE NOW
10:02BECAUSE TRUMP, AT THE END OF
10:04THE DAY GAVE PUTIN WHAT HE HAS
10:10BEEN WANTING WHICH WAS TO HAVE
10:11THAT WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY TO
10:12INVADE UKRAINE.
10:14AND BY HIM EMBARRASSING
10:15ZELENSKYY AND SHOWING WEAKNESS
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